The Sequel Week 11
Oct. 30th, 2019 09:45 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
seekingferret Week 11 Draft
72 fandoms! New ones added since last time are Unreal, Torch Song Trilogy, Weeds, and An Israeli Love story.
Caroline in the City has a season 2 episode that prefigures in most particulars the plot of Jewtopia. Goyish asshole Del Cassidy accidentally ends up at a Jewish singles mixer, meets a nice Jewish girl (played by Rena Sofer), lies and tells her he's Jewish because she will only date Jews. He then asks his Jewish friend Richard to coach him Cyrano style on how to fool her and her parents. I was excited about this moment because it offered confirmation that Richard, coded as Jewish in several ways, is actually Jewish (It may have been confirmed earlier, I haven't watched much of this show). Richard then dances later in the episode in the other subplot. Just as in Jewtopia, the scheme goes off the rails when he's about to become sexually intimate with her and he realizes that his lack of circumcision will give up the ghost. Just as in Jewtopia, I didn't enjoy this storyline at all, but at least the jokes were played in far less offensive ways than in that mess of a movie. And at least Rena Sofer is legitimately hella Jewish (she does not dance). It actually made me madder about Jewtopia... why bother making this movie that just recycles a mediocre 90s sitcom plot? Even if you're not going to botch it as badly as Jewtopia did, WHY?
I'm trying to not be too attached to clip placements. There are some clip placements that I think are just great where they are. There are others that I think work where they are, but could work in other places too, and I need to remind myself that just because I've seen it in that spot a lot of times doesn't mean it's the best spot in the long run. I moved some clips this week that had been on their spot for two months, to make room for new clips, and it's important that I remain open to that. Right now I still think there are places in the timeline where energy flags or flow isn't smooth enough, so there's still a lot of thought and experimentation to go.
I have a sort of tricky problem with removal of clips altogether, as opposed to moving them or shortening them, as I add new ones. On the one hand, I want to emphasize diversity of fandoms in the vid, so if it's one of those fandoms that I had a lot of source for early and filled a lot of timeline space with, like The Good Fight and The Women's Balcony, I'm fine cutting back on usage, there's such a thing as too much use of a fandom. But I need to be careful not to remove clips that are the only representation of the fandom on the timeline, which I almost did with Bruriah... The dancing in Bruriah isn't the most exciting or interesting, but I want to keep it in the vid anyway if at all possible. It's an awkward tension between the Philosophy of vid and the Execution... The Philosophy wants there to be All the Fandoms, the Execution wants only the good images where there's clear action in the foreground.
Also, I am mulling the ending. I mostly like the ending I have now, it makes me laugh to end with obviously terrible dancing, people just absolutely flailing away. And I like the Seinfeld moment where they just instantly stop dancing, it's funny and works clearly as an ending. But it's not a hammer the way Willow and Tara was a perfect hammer ending to WMLTMD. It just sort of fades away rather than taking things to the next level. And I have another problem with the Seinfeld ending, which is that both Kramer and George, though inspired by real life Jews, are not Jewish, so I'm ending the vid with two thirds of the characters in the final shot not Jewish... and Kramer is doing a lot of the heavy lifting of why the clip is funny. Also, going back to the previous both, all three of Seinfeld, Andi Mack, and While We're Young, my mini-montage of inept dancing, appear elsewhere in the vid, so I can cut them without losing any fandoms. But I don't know what goes in their place. The Willow and Tara shot works, IMO, because so many of the people in the vid's original audience were deeply imprinted on Buffy, and also it works for me because of![[community profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/community.png)
stilljewish, the community of Jewish fans on Dreamwidth that takes its name from a brilliant Willow line. But inherently as The Sequel, the vid using all the stuff that I didn't use originally, it doesn't have quite as many things with the same emotional hit. First vid has Fiddler and The Chosen and Buffy and Babylon 5... this vid has less of the iconic.
The answer, as always, is that it'd be great to figure out what this vid is about besides just being The Sequel, the leftovers. What am I able to say with these sources and this song that I wasn't able to say with WMLTMD? Until I know that, I'm just fumbling around toward a coherent structure. (Maybe I should just say fuck it and end on Willow again.)
fandoms I have clipped
Caddyshack
Bruriah
The Good Fight
Life During Wartime
Destination Wedding (bad rip)
The Good Wife
The Women's Balcony
Northern Exposure
Barney's Version
The Sitter
How to Make it in America
Late Marriage
Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
While We're Young
Seinfeld
Hello, Goodbye
This is the End
The Campaign for Camelot
On the Basis of Sex
Modern Romance
The Wonder Years
Hart of Dixie
Community
Call Me By Your Name
One Small Hitch
High Maintenance
Mean Girls
The OC
Russian Doll
The In-Laws
Parks and Recreation
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
Full Court Miracle
Mr and Mrs. Smith
Wonder Boys
Harold and Kumar go to White Castle
Superstore
Runaways
Starsky and Hutch (original)
New York I Love You
An Emmy for Megan
Red Sea Diving Resort
The L Word
Indecent
Private Benjamin
The Birdcage
Caddyshack 2
Pinsky
Love, Simon
Big Mouth
The League
The Princess Diaries
Have Gun Will Travel
Marjorie Morningstar
Burn Notice
Rugrats
An American Tail
Arthur the Aardvark
Boynton Beach Club
Beverly Hills 90210
Schitt's Creek
Thirtysomething
Falsettos
Red Oaks
Plus One
The Year of Spectacular Men
Biloxi Blues
Legends of Tomorrow
An Israeli Love Story
Torch Song Trilogy
Unreal
Weeds
Fandoms I know have Jewish dancing, but haven't yet clipped
The Pickle Recipe
Love Comes Lately
The Crazy Ones (S1E19)
The Simpsons
90210 (S5e8)
Caroline in the City (S2E6, S4E15)
Fandoms that might have Jewish dancing, but I haven't checked yet
Man Seeking Woman
Beauty and the Baker
Shtisel
Being Erica
The Naked Brothers Band
Lanigan's Rabbi
The Spy
Gravity Falls
Duck Tales
Difficult People
72 fandoms! New ones added since last time are Unreal, Torch Song Trilogy, Weeds, and An Israeli Love story.
Caroline in the City has a season 2 episode that prefigures in most particulars the plot of Jewtopia. Goyish asshole Del Cassidy accidentally ends up at a Jewish singles mixer, meets a nice Jewish girl (played by Rena Sofer), lies and tells her he's Jewish because she will only date Jews. He then asks his Jewish friend Richard to coach him Cyrano style on how to fool her and her parents. I was excited about this moment because it offered confirmation that Richard, coded as Jewish in several ways, is actually Jewish (It may have been confirmed earlier, I haven't watched much of this show). Richard then dances later in the episode in the other subplot. Just as in Jewtopia, the scheme goes off the rails when he's about to become sexually intimate with her and he realizes that his lack of circumcision will give up the ghost. Just as in Jewtopia, I didn't enjoy this storyline at all, but at least the jokes were played in far less offensive ways than in that mess of a movie. And at least Rena Sofer is legitimately hella Jewish (she does not dance). It actually made me madder about Jewtopia... why bother making this movie that just recycles a mediocre 90s sitcom plot? Even if you're not going to botch it as badly as Jewtopia did, WHY?
I'm trying to not be too attached to clip placements. There are some clip placements that I think are just great where they are. There are others that I think work where they are, but could work in other places too, and I need to remind myself that just because I've seen it in that spot a lot of times doesn't mean it's the best spot in the long run. I moved some clips this week that had been on their spot for two months, to make room for new clips, and it's important that I remain open to that. Right now I still think there are places in the timeline where energy flags or flow isn't smooth enough, so there's still a lot of thought and experimentation to go.
I have a sort of tricky problem with removal of clips altogether, as opposed to moving them or shortening them, as I add new ones. On the one hand, I want to emphasize diversity of fandoms in the vid, so if it's one of those fandoms that I had a lot of source for early and filled a lot of timeline space with, like The Good Fight and The Women's Balcony, I'm fine cutting back on usage, there's such a thing as too much use of a fandom. But I need to be careful not to remove clips that are the only representation of the fandom on the timeline, which I almost did with Bruriah... The dancing in Bruriah isn't the most exciting or interesting, but I want to keep it in the vid anyway if at all possible. It's an awkward tension between the Philosophy of vid and the Execution... The Philosophy wants there to be All the Fandoms, the Execution wants only the good images where there's clear action in the foreground.
Also, I am mulling the ending. I mostly like the ending I have now, it makes me laugh to end with obviously terrible dancing, people just absolutely flailing away. And I like the Seinfeld moment where they just instantly stop dancing, it's funny and works clearly as an ending. But it's not a hammer the way Willow and Tara was a perfect hammer ending to WMLTMD. It just sort of fades away rather than taking things to the next level. And I have another problem with the Seinfeld ending, which is that both Kramer and George, though inspired by real life Jews, are not Jewish, so I'm ending the vid with two thirds of the characters in the final shot not Jewish... and Kramer is doing a lot of the heavy lifting of why the clip is funny. Also, going back to the previous both, all three of Seinfeld, Andi Mack, and While We're Young, my mini-montage of inept dancing, appear elsewhere in the vid, so I can cut them without losing any fandoms. But I don't know what goes in their place. The Willow and Tara shot works, IMO, because so many of the people in the vid's original audience were deeply imprinted on Buffy, and also it works for me because of
stilljewish, the community of Jewish fans on Dreamwidth that takes its name from a brilliant Willow line. But inherently as The Sequel, the vid using all the stuff that I didn't use originally, it doesn't have quite as many things with the same emotional hit. First vid has Fiddler and The Chosen and Buffy and Babylon 5... this vid has less of the iconic. The answer, as always, is that it'd be great to figure out what this vid is about besides just being The Sequel, the leftovers. What am I able to say with these sources and this song that I wasn't able to say with WMLTMD? Until I know that, I'm just fumbling around toward a coherent structure. (Maybe I should just say fuck it and end on Willow again.)
fandoms I have clipped
Caddyshack
Bruriah
The Good Fight
Life During Wartime
Destination Wedding (bad rip)
The Good Wife
The Women's Balcony
Northern Exposure
Barney's Version
The Sitter
How to Make it in America
Late Marriage
Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
While We're Young
Seinfeld
Hello, Goodbye
This is the End
The Campaign for Camelot
On the Basis of Sex
Modern Romance
The Wonder Years
Hart of Dixie
Community
Call Me By Your Name
One Small Hitch
High Maintenance
Mean Girls
The OC
Russian Doll
The In-Laws
Parks and Recreation
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
Full Court Miracle
Mr and Mrs. Smith
Wonder Boys
Harold and Kumar go to White Castle
Superstore
Runaways
Starsky and Hutch (original)
New York I Love You
An Emmy for Megan
Red Sea Diving Resort
The L Word
Indecent
Private Benjamin
The Birdcage
Caddyshack 2
Pinsky
Love, Simon
Big Mouth
The League
The Princess Diaries
Have Gun Will Travel
Marjorie Morningstar
Burn Notice
Rugrats
An American Tail
Arthur the Aardvark
Boynton Beach Club
Beverly Hills 90210
Schitt's Creek
Thirtysomething
Falsettos
Red Oaks
Plus One
The Year of Spectacular Men
Biloxi Blues
Legends of Tomorrow
An Israeli Love Story
Torch Song Trilogy
Unreal
Weeds
Fandoms I know have Jewish dancing, but haven't yet clipped
The Pickle Recipe
Love Comes Lately
The Crazy Ones (S1E19)
The Simpsons
90210 (S5e8)
Caroline in the City (S2E6, S4E15)
Fandoms that might have Jewish dancing, but I haven't checked yet
Man Seeking Woman
Beauty and the Baker
Shtisel
Being Erica
The Naked Brothers Band
Lanigan's Rabbi
The Spy
Gravity Falls
Duck Tales
Difficult People
Square Pegs
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