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A little more on Batman in Justice League.

I really liked this version of Always-Has-A-Plan-And-A-Backup Batman. We've seen that version of Batman on TV and films before, and it's always a favorite for me, but rarely is the inherent self-sufficiency of that version Batman tested in such a pure way as it is in this movie. All of Batman's plans center around his understanding that he cannot beat this enemy and that in order to win he must depend on other people and factors that aren't within his control. His 'leadership' consists of creating the team and then bullying and manipulating Diana into taking over leadership because she'll be better than him. His gadget, the 'big gun' to take down Clark if Clark goes crazy, is Lois Lane- Batman's reluctant faith in human connection. He resurrects Clark, depending on him to save the day, but after sending in Lois Lane, he makes no effort whatsoever at a personal appeal to him, just hopes that Superman will come through in the end and moves on to other contingency plans. They march into the final battle and a lassoed Aquaman spends a couple minutes making fun of Batman's plan, and Batman doesn't argue for a second. Diana overrules his tactical suicide and sends Aquaman to save him and he doesn't argue for a second. I love this Bruce for whom assembling a team of people who are better than you and letting them amend the plan is the core basis of his plan. (And it is represented clearly by the movie as a managerial choice, not as haphazard bumbling) And I really appreciated that we didn't have to see any Batman The Loner Who Can't Play With Other Kids in this movie, yet the movie still recognized that Batman is an asshole who isn't naturally going to be a leader or inspire people to work together.

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Date: 2017-11-30 12:08 am (UTC)
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Ah, that does sound cool! I hadn't heard much about Superman and Batman in the film, I'm glad at least some things are done well.

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Date: 2017-11-30 06:09 pm (UTC)
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I was always going to see it eventually for the Diana bits, but this was the first commentary that made me interested in any of the non-Diana aspects of it.

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Date: 2017-11-30 06:44 pm (UTC)
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I'm well aware; your previous comments weren't glowing, and endorsements have been thin on the ground. But it'll be nice to have this set of ideas to poke at during the non-Diana parts.

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