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Jul. 6th, 2016 08:54 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
seekingferretSpoilers for things nobody minds being spoiled for:
I just torrented issue 2 of Steve Rogers (because I am not paying Marvel to troll me) and surprise, surprise, it's all about how the Red Skull used the Cosmic Cube to turn Steve into Hydra because of the lulz. No seriously, it's pretty much stated that it's for the lulz. With the power of the Cosmic Cube, the Red Skull could just rule the world, but he finds that unsatisfyingly easy. He'd much rather make Steve into the thing most antithetical to who Steve is. (Because that'll sell more comics)
Wait, did I say surprise, surprise? I meant to absolutely no one's surprise at all. This wasn't some great secret, it was the obvious consequence of the first issue, and the second issue reveal was an incredibly tedious flashback retcon monologue from the Red Skull with absolutely no plot. Just bad storytelling all around.
And it's bad storytelling because it's two issues worth of setup for a storyline nobody actually wants to read. Now that I have satisfied my morbid curiosity about the why of it, I will not be torrenting any more of the Steve Rogers comic, and I will certainly not be buying it, because who the hell wants to read about the Cosmic Cube-warped reality where Steve Rogers is a secret Nazi? What deep storytelling well is being tapped?
But ultimately it still feels like Marvel doesn't get the fundamental equivalence that HYDRA is a Nazi organization. There are a few references in issue 2 to the goofy multicolored outfits HYDRA wore in the '60s and '70s comics, and that seems to be the only HYDRA Marvel is trying to connect Steve Rogers to, the HYDRA that doesn't actually stand for anything except opposition to particular superheroes. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!!!! The Red Skull and Baron Zemo and Baron Strucker WORKED FOR HITLER. WHAT IS SO COMPLICATED ABOUT THIS? And beyond that, supposing Marvel succeeds in delinking Hydra and National Socialism, so what? Now your big reveal is that Steve has secretly been a lifelong committed member of an agency of vague and generic evil. Who cares? What gives the reveal charge is that Hydra is a Nazi organization, you can't walk away from it when it's the only thing remotely interesting in the whole bit.
I just torrented issue 2 of Steve Rogers (because I am not paying Marvel to troll me) and surprise, surprise, it's all about how the Red Skull used the Cosmic Cube to turn Steve into Hydra because of the lulz. No seriously, it's pretty much stated that it's for the lulz. With the power of the Cosmic Cube, the Red Skull could just rule the world, but he finds that unsatisfyingly easy. He'd much rather make Steve into the thing most antithetical to who Steve is. (Because that'll sell more comics)
Wait, did I say surprise, surprise? I meant to absolutely no one's surprise at all. This wasn't some great secret, it was the obvious consequence of the first issue, and the second issue reveal was an incredibly tedious flashback retcon monologue from the Red Skull with absolutely no plot. Just bad storytelling all around.
And it's bad storytelling because it's two issues worth of setup for a storyline nobody actually wants to read. Now that I have satisfied my morbid curiosity about the why of it, I will not be torrenting any more of the Steve Rogers comic, and I will certainly not be buying it, because who the hell wants to read about the Cosmic Cube-warped reality where Steve Rogers is a secret Nazi? What deep storytelling well is being tapped?
But ultimately it still feels like Marvel doesn't get the fundamental equivalence that HYDRA is a Nazi organization. There are a few references in issue 2 to the goofy multicolored outfits HYDRA wore in the '60s and '70s comics, and that seems to be the only HYDRA Marvel is trying to connect Steve Rogers to, the HYDRA that doesn't actually stand for anything except opposition to particular superheroes. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!!!! The Red Skull and Baron Zemo and Baron Strucker WORKED FOR HITLER. WHAT IS SO COMPLICATED ABOUT THIS? And beyond that, supposing Marvel succeeds in delinking Hydra and National Socialism, so what? Now your big reveal is that Steve has secretly been a lifelong committed member of an agency of vague and generic evil. Who cares? What gives the reveal charge is that Hydra is a Nazi organization, you can't walk away from it when it's the only thing remotely interesting in the whole bit.
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Date: 2016-07-06 11:08 pm (UTC)I, too, figured it would be something half-assed like this, but I don't care why they thought it was a good idea; that they did think it was a good idea means I no longer have to spend money on them.
Or something. Icon on purpose.
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Date: 2016-07-07 03:57 pm (UTC)(Icon on purpose, too)
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Date: 2016-07-17 07:33 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2016-07-17 11:46 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2019-04-30 04:45 pm (UTC)There's that run where they certainly knew Red Skull was working for Hitler though not where the bounds of taste lay. (The trade shows a rough of what got in trouble. Egads!)