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This morning I got a flat on the way to work. We found a little shard of metal in the tire when we pulled it off. So that was fun. The annoying part was that I had another tire with some shallow slashes on the sidewall and I had been planning to take it in to be checked out when I had the time, but was driving on it for the moment since it was working. And of course that was not the tire that died, so I ended up replacing two tires. And getting the oil changed, while I was at it.

I think my father, who is more superstitious/more open to seeing God's hand, would say that the flat tire, in a safe circumstance where it could easily be replaced, was perhaps Hashem's way of pushing me to take care of the other maintenance, which might otherwise have led to me having a dangerous blowout or other much less manageable car situation. And I suspect he would claim that the timing of this seeming misfortune was connected to my making a point to light the chanukiah last night despite coming in very late, and staying awake watching until the candles had all burned out.

I'm not so willing to envision God's hand like that. Not because I don't believe it is present, but because I don't believe I am smart enough, wise enough, perceptive enough to see it that clearly in a chain of events. In place of my father's neat sequence of events, I have to substitute sheer betach- trust that God's hand is looking out for me, even when it seems like I've been given a setback, and even when I can't easily point to a mechanical act of devotion I performed to deserve it. It is a lonelier kind of faith, my way, though I don't know if it is necessarily a more difficult kind of faith.

Faith, in general, I think, is more difficult than non-believers give it credit for being. Faith isn't just a matter of believing something you can't prove, something you can't see. Faith is believing something even when you face something that tests your faith. That is deeper than mere delusion, I believe. I think my father's kind of faith is just as difficult to summon, even if it rewards you with a neatness and a sense that there is a discernible order amid the chaos.

But I am stuck with my own path through the wilderness, and even though I suggested that my faith is perhaps lonelier than my father's, less littered with evidence of God's presence in my life, I do have signposts of my ineffable (I-Thou) communion with Hashem. And above all of them is the Torah, which suffuses my life with its living light.

Happy Chanukah to everyone!

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Date: 2013-12-03 07:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cahn
...yeah.

I've been thinking about this kind of thing a lot lately. And I have many problems with the idea of God's hand being so very neat, full of simple causal relationships, and of the idea that God arranges all events for everyone personally for the optimal outcome (whatever that may mean). That is very comforting for many people; it is not comforting to me (unless I think of it as some sort of massive four-dimensional pattern, which I sometimes can). But at the same time I see God's hand in my life, sometimes through just small seemingly-silly things, sometimes through other people, sometimes through the meaning that I and other people make of things, and I do think that it is there.

Sometimes I feel that communion. It is very, very rare. But sometimes I have felt it.

What do you believe about prayer? There's a simplistic view of prayer that I see a lot at church, that we pray for things and then God answers us, often yes (but, to make it less simplistic, sometimes no, or sometimes "not now"). I don't know how I feel about that, although having a child has helped me understand why this might be a thing. I do feel very strongly, even if it contradicts what I said about God's hand, that we can pray for other people and that it helps them, that God hears those prayers and will act in response to them, sometimes in immediate, comforting ways.

...I realize this comment contradicts itself in places. That, too, I think, can be the nature of faith. Which I think is okay overall, actually, although sometimes it annoys me.

(Happy Chanukah!)

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Date: 2013-12-03 07:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kass
Happy Chanukah to you too!

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Date: 2013-12-03 08:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zandperl
I ended up replacing two tires

Depending on your tires' mileage/age, it's sometimes best to replace all four at the same time. I ended up doing that after shredding one on the way to work a few years back.

When I was a kid if I did something bad (like say a curse), and then something bad happened to me (like stubbing my toe), my mother would say "God punishes." It always struck me as silly that he'd bother to punish such a little thing.

Happy Chanukah to everyone!

Who decides the "official" transliteration anyway? Growing up I saw it spelled "Chanukah" everywhere, but now I see "Hanukkah" more often.

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Date: 2014-02-02 12:43 pm (UTC)
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I've had this entry open in a tab for a while now (*ahem* two months) because every time I take the time to glance over it, I find something else to mull over. The contrast between your dad's faith and yours very much parallels the difference between my mother's and mine, but your acceptance of your dad's faith is something I haven't found yet for my mom's. I struggle with what I perceive as a "bubble-gum machine God" - insert prayer, get prize. I cringe when I recall a former roommate's claim on "Jesus Kid parking!" as a sort of charm to find a good place to put her car. I need to sit a while with the idea that maybe I should chill out about that, respect other kinds of prayers and not feel like God is shaking hir head at them in dismay, any more than God is at mine.

I love the description of prayer as the times you are paying attention to your ongoing conversation with God. Totally co-opting that one.

I guess the other piece I'm bringing to this is a more humanistic one. There is power in stating your desires and intentions, because it focuses your sense of purpose. There is something that connects us all that allows us to bless each other through prayer, even when a deity is not invoked. Part of the power of prayer is the power of us. I believe that power is given to us by God, but even if I stopped believing in God, I think I'd still believe there was something to this whole prayer thing.

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