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Mar. 9th, 2020 06:48 pmFreilichin Purim! I made hamentaschen this weekend, chocolate chip ones and apricot ones, and some of them didn't collapse! Right now I'm hanging out in my apartment for a bit, hungry, heading over to hear megillah in about an hour.
Purimgifts revealed its first day of gifts. I got a beautiful vignette of Princess Leia remembering her mother. Looking forward to the ensuing days, and to getting a chance to dig through the collection.
Motherhood: Nature (315 words) by Anonymous
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Star Wars - All Media Types
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Padmé Amidala & Leia Organa, Bail Organa & Breha Organa & Leia Organa
Characters: Leia Organa
Additional Tags: Pre-Canon, Childhood Memories, Mother-Daughter Relationship, Motherhood, Collection: Purimgifts Day 1
Series: Part 1 of Motherhood
Summary:
Daf Yomi moved on to Maseches Shabbos yesterday, I'm trying once more to keep up and blog.
Shabbos Daf 2
The opening mishna of Shabbos is not one of the more obvious laws of Shabbos. I think I remember Rabbi Linzer saying that he thinks this is deliberate- the most significant laws of when Shabbos is and how it's observed are intentionally left to start with the 7th chapter of the tractate, for obvious symbolic reasons.
Instead, the first Mishna is one of the laws of carrying on Shabbos. You are allowed to carry things inside a Private Domain, i.e. inside a building. You are not allowed to carry things inside a Public Domain, i.e. outdoors. The Rabbis also have a third concept called a Karmelit, which is a sort of intermediate semi-outdoor, semi-private structure that has its own rules, but we'll get to that. The first question is, what are the rules for the transition between a Private Domain and a Public Domain?
Says the Mishna, there are two rules that are really four from the perspective of Outside, and two rules that are really four from the perspective on Inside. What the hell does that mean? It's a familiar mnemonic structure for the Mishnah, as the Gemara will soon point out, it appears several times throughout the Mishnah, notably several times in a row at the start of the tractate Shevuos. Rather than just listing a bunch of cases haphazardly, it tries to break them down into these speciic forms to make them easier to remember.
The four cases from the Outside perspective seem to be: 1) A person standing in a Public Domain holding an object puts his hand through the doorway and deposits the object in the hand of a person standing in a Private Domain. 2) A person standing in a Public Domain reaches through the doorway, picks up an object in the hand of a person in a Private Domain and then takes it out into the Public Domain. 3) A person standing in a Public Domain holding an object passes the object through the doorway, and then the person in the Private Domain takes it from them and 4) A person standing in a Public Domain reaches their hands through the doorway and a person in the Private Domain puts an object in their hand.
In the first two cases, the person doing all the work is chayav, and the person passively standing there is patur. In the second two cases, since the work is split, both are patur.
The four cases from the Inside perspective should be obvious- they're the same cases, but just reversed to the perspective of the person in the Private Domain.
However, I did not state my cases in the same way the Mishna did. The Mishna stated them in a different order that mixed the inside cases with the outside cases. This proceeds to confuse the heck out of the Gemara.
Also, chayav and patur are worth revisiting here because they are crazily counterintuitive. Chayav obviously means that one incurs a penalty for violating Shabbos. Patur is translated by Steinsaltz as exempt, but as the Gemara will discuss on the next page, it doesn't mean exempt. It means Biblically exempt, but Rabbinically forbidden. If the Mishna had wanted to say permitted, it would use the word mutar, not patur.
Daf 3
The Gemara spends this page trying to figure out what the heck the Mishna was trying to say. This is one of those things I sort of understand why the Gemara cares about, but I don't really care that much. Regardless of what order they're listed in, the Mishna covers all the relevant cases, so getting me to care whether it's actually 2 that are really 4, or 4 that are really eight, is an uphill battle.
That said, obviously, the Mishna is converting an oral tradition into a written one and the Gemara is trying to fill in the gaps with other pieces of the oral tradition that didn't make it into the Mishna, and therefore making sense of these sorts of mnemonics is clearly going to be a critical part of validating the oral transmission, so I get why the Gemara cares more than me.
Purimgifts revealed its first day of gifts. I got a beautiful vignette of Princess Leia remembering her mother. Looking forward to the ensuing days, and to getting a chance to dig through the collection.
Motherhood: Nature (315 words) by Anonymous
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Star Wars - All Media Types
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Padmé Amidala & Leia Organa, Bail Organa & Breha Organa & Leia Organa
Characters: Leia Organa
Additional Tags: Pre-Canon, Childhood Memories, Mother-Daughter Relationship, Motherhood, Collection: Purimgifts Day 1
Series: Part 1 of Motherhood
Summary:
Leia's impressions of her birth mother go back farther and deeper than expected. First of a trio of vignettes on motherhood involving one Leia Amidala Skywalker Organa Solo.
Daf Yomi moved on to Maseches Shabbos yesterday, I'm trying once more to keep up and blog.
Shabbos Daf 2
The opening mishna of Shabbos is not one of the more obvious laws of Shabbos. I think I remember Rabbi Linzer saying that he thinks this is deliberate- the most significant laws of when Shabbos is and how it's observed are intentionally left to start with the 7th chapter of the tractate, for obvious symbolic reasons.
Instead, the first Mishna is one of the laws of carrying on Shabbos. You are allowed to carry things inside a Private Domain, i.e. inside a building. You are not allowed to carry things inside a Public Domain, i.e. outdoors. The Rabbis also have a third concept called a Karmelit, which is a sort of intermediate semi-outdoor, semi-private structure that has its own rules, but we'll get to that. The first question is, what are the rules for the transition between a Private Domain and a Public Domain?
Says the Mishna, there are two rules that are really four from the perspective of Outside, and two rules that are really four from the perspective on Inside. What the hell does that mean? It's a familiar mnemonic structure for the Mishnah, as the Gemara will soon point out, it appears several times throughout the Mishnah, notably several times in a row at the start of the tractate Shevuos. Rather than just listing a bunch of cases haphazardly, it tries to break them down into these speciic forms to make them easier to remember.
The four cases from the Outside perspective seem to be: 1) A person standing in a Public Domain holding an object puts his hand through the doorway and deposits the object in the hand of a person standing in a Private Domain. 2) A person standing in a Public Domain reaches through the doorway, picks up an object in the hand of a person in a Private Domain and then takes it out into the Public Domain. 3) A person standing in a Public Domain holding an object passes the object through the doorway, and then the person in the Private Domain takes it from them and 4) A person standing in a Public Domain reaches their hands through the doorway and a person in the Private Domain puts an object in their hand.
In the first two cases, the person doing all the work is chayav, and the person passively standing there is patur. In the second two cases, since the work is split, both are patur.
The four cases from the Inside perspective should be obvious- they're the same cases, but just reversed to the perspective of the person in the Private Domain.
However, I did not state my cases in the same way the Mishna did. The Mishna stated them in a different order that mixed the inside cases with the outside cases. This proceeds to confuse the heck out of the Gemara.
Also, chayav and patur are worth revisiting here because they are crazily counterintuitive. Chayav obviously means that one incurs a penalty for violating Shabbos. Patur is translated by Steinsaltz as exempt, but as the Gemara will discuss on the next page, it doesn't mean exempt. It means Biblically exempt, but Rabbinically forbidden. If the Mishna had wanted to say permitted, it would use the word mutar, not patur.
Daf 3
The Gemara spends this page trying to figure out what the heck the Mishna was trying to say. This is one of those things I sort of understand why the Gemara cares about, but I don't really care that much. Regardless of what order they're listed in, the Mishna covers all the relevant cases, so getting me to care whether it's actually 2 that are really 4, or 4 that are really eight, is an uphill battle.
That said, obviously, the Mishna is converting an oral tradition into a written one and the Gemara is trying to fill in the gaps with other pieces of the oral tradition that didn't make it into the Mishna, and therefore making sense of these sorts of mnemonics is clearly going to be a critical part of validating the oral transmission, so I get why the Gemara cares more than me.