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Do you believe that "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" is a love song?

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Date: 2016-03-14 01:05 am (UTC)
lannamichaels: Animated icon. Text of Prufrock. (prufrock)
From: [personal profile] lannamichaels
I think it's about love, but I don't think it's a song. So, I guess, no.

EDIT: That said, I'm not sure how I would define a song. Now this is gonna bug me.
Edited Date: 2016-03-14 01:06 am (UTC)

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Date: 2016-03-14 01:23 am (UTC)
brainwane: My smiling face in front of a brick wall, May 2015. (Default)
From: [personal profile] brainwane
The simplistic binary answer I give is: no.

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Date: 2016-05-05 11:48 pm (UTC)
brainwane: My smiling face in front of a brick wall, May 2015. (Default)
From: [personal profile] brainwane
So here I am assuming that the title "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" is saying that the poem *is* the love song.

It's about love, so that criterion is basically taken care of for me. The problem is "song". It's *kinda* a song, in that it's lyric, but if I define any given sort of poetically/lyrically written text as a "song" then that feels like it's going to make "song" a super wide category that includes all poems as well. Which chafes the pedant in me who says "we have a word for that already".

Maybe "love song" is a phrase I should be reading more as a single unit, kind of like how people say that a film is a "love letter to" old Hollywood or a particular genre or whatever. Or maybe the title is not so much a description of the poem as a description of the topic Prufrock is trying to address.
Edited (pedantry note) Date: 2016-05-05 11:49 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2016-03-14 01:39 am (UTC)
thirdblindmouse: The captain, wearing an upturned pitcher on his head, gazes critically into the mirror. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thirdblindmouse
If so, not to a person.

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Date: 2016-03-14 05:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bookherd
It reads to me like Eliot or his protagonist sat down to write a love song, and that poem is what came out. So the title strikes me as ironic, perhaps in the sense of "This is as close to a love song as you're going to get from me." Especially because of the inclusion of the name (perhaps a deliberately mundane-sounding name) in the title.

Ah, this is interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Song_of_J._Alfred_Prufrock#Title

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Date: 2016-03-14 01:57 pm (UTC)
melannen: Commander Valentine of Alpha Squad Seven, a red-haired female Nick Fury in space, smoking contemplatively (Default)
From: [personal profile] melannen
I think it's meant to be Prufrock's best attempt at a love song and intended to clearly not be a successful attempt. (I also do think it could be singable; for freeverse poetry it has a very strong rhythm to it.)

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Date: 2016-03-14 03:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cahn
Yes. Though, er, J. Alfred gets easily sidetracked. And it's not a love song I would enjoy being aimed at me (which is, of course, part of the point).

...I never really thought about the "song" part of it that much. Huh. Now I want to set the thing to music. There would be at least one part where J. Alfred would sing hilariously and quaveringly off-key.

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Date: 2016-03-15 09:27 pm (UTC)
ghost_lingering: a pie is about to hit the ground (Default)
From: [personal profile] ghost_lingering
Yes, but by someone (and hopefully to someone/something) with an idiosyncratic and nonstandard view of love.

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